NL5 y subiendo... ahora NL10.. Alto Fish

    • chiaradiapoker
      chiaradiapoker
      Bronce
      Registro: 02-03-2010 Artículos: 641
      Buenas!

      Mi nombre es Gabriel, juego en pokerstars hace unos 3 o 4 años... pero debido a mi mindset, no pude subir nunca mas de nl25.

      Ahora me encuentro reiniciando luego de bustear mi bank por 34234 vez, y espero empezar a hacer las cosas bien, por eso es que voy a comenzar a subir manos y tratar de ir mejorando mientras armo esto.

      Actualmente estoy en nl5, y preparandome para subir a nl10, nivel en el que ya pase 200 veces maso menos.

      Hoy a la madrugada tuve una sesion HORRIBLE, de esas que me destruyen el bankroll.. estaba en 200u$s , listo para subir a nl10, pero tenia limitado stars a nl5, por eso decidi jugar zoom shorthanded, y el resultado es este.

      :f_frown:



      Las stats no son nada raro, pero muchisimos cooler...



      dejo algunos manos para que comenten!

      Hand 1:
      Se que en el river me inmole pero era un villano bastante aggro y me parecia que no solo tenia Jx en su rango, tal vez JJ era la unica mano que podia haberme aguantado 2 calles, pero no estaba seguro y en ese momento estaba bastante fuera de mi, porque ya venia paleado mal.

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 142.6 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 31.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
      Hero (SB): 156 BB
      BB: 111.8 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 57.14, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 7)
      UTG: 122.2 BB (VPIP: 17.58, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 92)
      MP: 106 BB (VPIP: 23.81, PFR: 12.38, 3Bet Preflop: 10.26, Hands: 113)
      CO: 33.2 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 21)

      Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q:heart: Q:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 10.4 BB, fold, BTN calls 7.4 BB

      Flop: (21.8 BB, 2 players) 5:heart: T:spade: Q:club:
      Hero bets 10.4 BB, BTN calls 10.4 BB

      Turn: (42.6 BB, 2 players) 8:spade:
      Hero bets 20.4 BB, BTN calls 20.4 BB

      River: (83.4 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond:
      Hero bets 114.8 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 101.4 BB and is all-in

      Hero shows Q:heart: Q:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Queens) (Pre 83%, Flop 95%, Turn 91%)
      BTN shows J:heart: J:diamond: (Straight, Queen High) (Pre 17%, Flop 5%, Turn 9%)
      BTN wins 274.4 BB


      Hand 2:

      Esta fue una de las manos que me tildo... creo que es un badbeat y ya, que opinan?

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 166 BB (VPIP: 19.79, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 97)
      SB: 106.8 BB (VPIP: 42.31, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
      Hero (BB): 124.6 BB
      UTG: 83.6 BB (VPIP: 16.38, PFR: 12.07, 3Bet Preflop: 7.50, Hands: 120)
      MP: 135.8 BB (VPIP: 23.01, PFR: 21.24, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 120)
      CO: 104.4 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 6:spade: 5:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.4 BB, SB calls 2 BB, Hero raises to 10.4 BB, BTN calls 8 BB, fold

      Flop: (23.2 BB, 2 players) T:heart: 6:heart: 6:club:
      Hero bets 14.6 BB, BTN calls 14.6 BB

      Turn: (52.4 BB, 2 players) 9:club:
      Hero bets 33 BB, BTN calls 33 BB

      River: (118.4 BB, 2 players) K:spade:
      Hero bets 66.6 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 66.6 BB

      Hero shows 6:spade: 5:spade: (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 23%, Flop 87%, Turn 95%)
      BTN shows K:heart: K:club: (Full House, Kings full of Sixes) (Pre 77%, Flop 13%, Turn 5%)
      BTN wins 241.2 BB


      Hand 3:

      Aca creo que sobrevalue mi mano, crei que podia tener AK o AQ alguna vez, pero mirando en frio creo que es un fold directamente, o tal vez puedo pagar el 3bet porque estoy IP pero creo que el 4bet es ev- casi siempre ahi, porque estoy convirtiendo una mano buena en un farol.

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 102.4 BB (VPIP: 30.43, PFR: 30.43, 3Bet Preflop: 27.27, Hands: 24)
      SB: 165 BB (VPIP: 19.51, PFR: 12.20, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 43)
      Hero (BB): 117.2 BB
      UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 61)
      MP: 91.6 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
      CO: 214.2 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J:heart: J:club:

      fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.8 BB, SB raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 24 BB, fold, SB raises to 45 BB, Hero raises to 117.2 BB and is all-in, SB calls 72.2 BB

      Flop: (237.2 BB, 2 players) 9:heart: K:spade: 5:heart:

      Turn: (237.2 BB, 2 players) K:heart:

      River: (237.2 BB, 2 players) Q:heart:
      Players agreed to run it twice.

      Flop #2: (237.2 BB, 2 players) 5:spade: Q:club: 7:diamond:

      Turn #2: (237.2 BB, 2 players) T:heart:

      River #2: (237.2 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:

      SB shows A:heart: A:spade: (Flush, Ace High)Board #1 (Pre 81%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)Board #2 (Pre 81%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
      Hero shows J:heart: J:club: (Flush, King High)Board #1 (Pre 19%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)Board #2 (Pre 19%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
      SB wins 113.8 BB
      SB wins 113.6 BB

      Hand 4:

      Esta la pongo solamente para no dejarla afuera... std cooler.

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (BTN): 113.4 BB
      SB: 139 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
      BB: 102.4 BB (VPIP: 26.19, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 42)
      UTG: 138.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
      MP: 130.6 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)
      CO: 172 BB (VPIP: 19.57, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 8.11, Hands: 94)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:heart: A:diamond:

      fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 8.6 BB, fold, CO raises to 172 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 104.4 BB and is all-in, fold

      Flop: (236.8 BB, 2 players) 5:heart: J:diamond: Q:spade:

      Turn: (236.8 BB, 2 players) 9:club:

      River: (236.8 BB, 2 players) T:club:

      CO shows K:club: K:spade: (Straight, King High) (Pre 19%, Flop 10%, Turn 14%)
      Hero shows A:heart: A:diamond: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 81%, Flop 90%, Turn 86%)
      CO wins 227 BB

      Hand 5:

      Creo que aca el villano va a estakearse muchas veces con sus OP`s y FDs, por lo que la veo std, solo que todos los flips cayeron del lado incorrecto

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 179 BB (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 13.33, Hands: 58)
      Hero (SB): 154.6 BB
      BB: 109 BB (VPIP: 16.20, PFR: 11.27, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 149)
      UTG: 433.8 BB (VPIP: 19.80, PFR: 15.84, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 103)
      MP: 150.6 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 22.35, 3Bet Preflop: 12.12, Hands: 86)
      CO: 110 BB (VPIP: 31.34, PFR: 20.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)

      Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 7:heart: 8:heart:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

      Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 8:diamond: 4:spade: 8:spade:
      Hero checks, BB bets 8.6 BB, Hero raises to 25.8 BB, BB raises to 100 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 74.2 BB

      Turn: (218 BB, 2 players) 3:spade:

      River: (218 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond:

      Hero shows 7:heart: 8:heart: (Three of a Kind, Eights) (Pre 39%, Flop 75%, Turn 23%)
      BB shows K:spade: A:spade: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 61%, Flop 25%, Turn 77%)
      BB wins 209 BB

      Hand 6:

      Aca el villano era un regtard standard, un 20/10 o algo asi... creo que siempre voy por detras ahi, tal vez deberia haber solo pagado su raise en el flop, pero cuando subo y me pushea, no veo forma de escaparme de ahi. Si el hubiera 3beteado a 1,60 o algo asi, tal vez pago, y en turn reevaluo, pero al pushear, crei que era un std cooler contra AK o KQ, pero cuando vi lo que llevaba me tilde

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 98.6 BB (VPIP: 18.54, PFR: 11.22, 3Bet Preflop: 3.75, Hands: 209)
      Hero (SB): 117 BB
      BB: 147 BB (VPIP: 16.26, PFR: 12.20, 3Bet Preflop: 6.98, Hands: 130)
      UTG: 366.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
      MP: 105 BB (VPIP: 21.21, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 102)
      CO: 284.8 BB (VPIP: 17.02, PFR: 14.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)

      Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:club: T:diamond:

      fold, MP calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, MP calls 3 BB

      Flop: (9 BB, 2 players) K:diamond: 5:club: K:heart:
      Hero checks, MP bets 4.2 BB, Hero raises to 12.6 BB, MP raises to 101 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 88.4 BB

      Turn: (211 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond:

      River: (211 BB, 2 players) J:diamond:

      Hero shows K:club: T:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 47%, Flop 23%, Turn 16%)
      MP shows 5:heart: 5:spade: (Full House, Fives full of Kings) (Pre 53%, Flop 77%, Turn 84%)
      MP wins 202.2 BB

      Hand 7:

      La parte del (/fold preflop/) ya la se, pero una vez que pago... es estandar jugarme ahi? o que linea deberia seguir una vez que cometi el error de pagar preflop.

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 79.8 BB (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
      Hero (SB): 102.6 BB
      BB: 111.4 BB (VPIP: 31.53, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 14.58, Hands: 117)
      UTG: 100.2 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 49)
      MP: 127.6 BB (VPIP: 43.24, PFR: 18.92, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)
      CO: 101.6 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)

      Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:spade: T:spade:

      fold, MP raises to 3.4 BB, CO raises to 8 BB, fold, Hero calls 7.6 BB, fold, MP calls 4.6 BB

      Flop: (25 BB, 3 players) 3:diamond: 7:spade: 6:spade:
      Hero bets 18 BB, fold, CO raises to 40 BB, Hero raises to 94.6 BB and is all-in, CO calls 53.6 BB and is all-in

      Turn: (212.2 BB, 2 players) 8:heart:

      River: (212.2 BB, 2 players) Q:heart:

      Hero shows K:spade: T:spade: (High Card, King) (Pre 47%, Flop 54%, Turn 30%)
      CO shows 9:heart: 9:club: (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 53%, Flop 46%, Turn 70%)
      CO wins 203.4 BB


      Hand 8:

      Es std, nice hand y listo? o debo reevaluar como juego este tipo de manos... se que el puede tener set, pero tambien tiene muchos TPs y cosas por el estilo, no me gusta mucho pagar para foldear turn, pero esto me genera muchisima varianza. No se que linea es mejor en manos asi

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
      SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.75, PFR: 9.84, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 62)
      Hero (BB): 100 BB
      UTG: 237.4 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
      MP: 171.4 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 9.68, Hands: 82)
      CO: 107.8 BB (VPIP: 15.25, PFR: 15.25, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 64)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 4:club: A:club:

      fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

      Flop: (6.4 BB, 2 players) T:heart: 3:club: K:club:
      Hero checks, CO bets 4 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, CO raises to 30 BB, Hero raises to 97 BB and is all-in, CO calls 67 BB

      Turn: (200.4 BB, 2 players) J:diamond:

      River: (200.4 BB, 2 players) K:diamond:

      Hero shows 4:club: A:club: (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 59%, Flop 34%, Turn 25%)
      CO shows K:heart: T:club: (Full House, Kings full of Tens) (Pre 41%, Flop 66%, Turn 75%)
      CO wins 192 BB

      Hand 8:
      Aca el villano es un nit, 14/7, como la juegan?
      Fold flop es inaceptable, pero fold turn? o river?, o es std pagar ahi? no tengo stats de que haga cosas muy locas, digamos que es un desconocido std.

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 312.6 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 33)
      SB: 151.8 BB (VPIP: 13.21, PFR: 9.43, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 55)
      BB: 146 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
      UTG: 92.6 BB (VPIP: 62.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
      Hero (MP): 102.2 BB
      CO: 190.8 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 17.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 76)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q:club: Q:diamond:

      fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

      Flop: (20.4 BB, 2 players) 2:heart: 2:spade: J:club:
      BB bets 9.8 BB, Hero calls 9.8 BB

      Turn: (40 BB, 2 players) T:heart:
      BB bets 19.2 BB, Hero calls 19.2 BB

      River: (78.4 BB, 2 players) 6:spade:
      BB bets 56.4 BB, Hero calls 56.4 BB

      BB shows A:club: A:diamond: (Two Pair, Aces and Twos) (Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
      Hero mucks Q:club: Q:diamond: (Two Pair, Queens and Twos) (Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
      BB wins 183.2 BB

      Hand 10,
      Esta es la frutilla del postre!!

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (BTN): 101 BB
      SB: 112.6 BB (VPIP: 6.16, PFR: 4.11, 3Bet Preflop: 1.92, Hands: 148)
      BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.09, PFR: 17.19, 3Bet Preflop: 8.89, Hands: 132)
      UTG: 210.8 BB (VPIP: 31.82, PFR: 22.73, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
      MP: 64.2 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
      CO: 198 BB (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:club: Q:club:

      UTG raises to 2.4 BB, MP raises to 8.6 BB, fold, Hero calls 8.6 BB, fold, fold, fold

      Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond: T:heart: 3:club:
      MP bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

      Turn: (41 BB, 2 players) J:heart:
      MP bets 20 BB, Hero raises to 82.4 BB and is all-in, MP calls 25.6 BB and is all-in

      River: (132.2 BB, 2 players) K:spade:

      MP shows Q:spade: A:club: (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 71%, Flop 70%, Turn 7%)
      Hero shows K:club: Q:club: (Straight, King High) (Pre 29%, Flop 30%, Turn 93%)
      MP wins 126.8 BB
  • 19 respuestas
    • chiaradiapoker
      chiaradiapoker
      Bronce
      Registro: 02-03-2010 Artículos: 641
      Por suerte el dia me sienta mejor!!

      Tuve que cambiar de modalidad porque habia quedado en 25 cajas de nl5... no quiero perder mas, y quiero subir YA a nl10, por lo que me mude a la modalidad mas rentable del poker online.. NL5 DEEP!!! Es increible lo que se puede hacer ahi...

      Esta es la sesion de la tarde





      Aca obviamente jugue muy distinto a la otra sesion, pero creo que es rentable hacer algunos cold calls de mas, y pagar en algunos botes en lugar de 3betear tanto.

      Algunas manos...

      Hand 11
      El villano es un nit regular... creen que es muy esperanzador el calldown? Puedo foldear turn? o DEBO foldear river?

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 78 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
      SB: 113.2 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
      Hero (BB): 128.8 BB
      UTG: 99.2 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
      MP: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
      CO: 357.8 BB (VPIP: 12.77, PFR: 12.77, 3Bet Preflop: 15.38, Hands: 48)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:spade: A:club:

      UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 11 BB, fold

      Flop: (27.4 BB, 2 players) 5:spade: J:spade: K:heart:
      Hero checks, CO bets 18 BB, Hero calls 18 BB

      Turn: (63.4 BB, 2 players) 4:club:
      Hero checks, CO bets 40.4 BB, Hero calls 40.4 BB

      River: (144.2 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:
      Hero checks, CO bets 287.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 58.4 BB and is all-in

      CO shows J:heart: J:diamond: (Full House, Jacks full of Fours) (Pre 57%, Flop 92%, Turn 100%)
      Hero shows K:spade: A:club: (Two Pair, Kings and Fours) (Pre 43%, Flop 8%, Turn 0%)
      CO wins 250.2 BB

      Hand 12:

      Aca creo que le pifie viendo el board, porque estaba jugando a muchas mesas y me confundi, JAMAS pense que podia tener la escalera, no vi que mi escalera era solo con el 10 :f_mad:
      Tengo un facil call turn para foldear river no?

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 128.8 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
      SB: 111.8 BB
      BB: 110.2 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 21)
      UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
      MP: 121.4 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 38)
      Hero (CO): 247.6 BB

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:spade: T:club:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.4 BB, BTN calls 2.4 BB, SB calls 2 BB, fold

      Flop: (8.2 BB, 3 players) Q:heart: 9:diamond: J:diamond:
      SB checks, Hero bets 4.2 BB, BTN calls 4.2 BB, SB calls 4.2 BB

      Turn: (20.8 BB, 3 players) K:heart:
      SB bets 20 BB, Hero raises to 241 BB and is all-in, fold, SB calls 85.2 BB and is all-in

      River: (231.2 BB, 2 players) K:club:

      SB shows A:spade: T:heart: (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 74%, Flop 13%, Turn 97%)
      Hero shows K:spade: T:club: (Straight, King High) (Pre 26%, Flop 87%, Turn 3%)
      SB wins 221.6 BB

      Hand 13:
      A comer por culo tio! jajaja

      PokerStars - $0.05 Ante $0.01 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 81 BB (VPIP: 40.79, PFR: 18.42, 3Bet Preflop: 10.34, Hands: 77)
      UTG: 248.2 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 26.53, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 50)
      MP: 81 BB (VPIP: 51.35, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
      CO: 244.2 BB (VPIP: 19.31, PFR: 14.85, 3Bet Preflop: 10.67, Hands: 209)
      BTN: 250 BB (VPIP: 20.93, PFR: 16.28, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)
      Hero (SB): 300.4 BB

      Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 6 players post ante of 0.2 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 2.6 BB) Hero has A:club: A:diamond:

      fold, MP calls 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 5.2 BB, fold, MP calls 4.2 BB, CO calls 4.2 BB

      Flop: (17.8 BB, 3 players) 4:heart: 4:spade: 5:club:
      Hero bets 12.6 BB, fold, CO calls 12.6 BB

      Turn: (43 BB, 2 players) 3:diamond:
      Hero checks, CO bets 26 BB, Hero calls 26 BB

      River: (95 BB, 2 players) A:heart:
      Hero checks, CO bets 66 BB, Hero raises to 256.4 BB and is all-in, CO calls 134.2 BB and is all-in

      Hero shows A:club: A:diamond: (Full House, Aces full of Fours) (Pre 78%, Flop 68%, Turn 9%)
      CO mucks 6:club: 7:club: (Straight, Seven High) (Pre 22%, Flop 32%, Turn 91%)
      Hero wins 475.4 BB


      Hand 14:
      Esta es solo para comentar que esta y la anterior fueron las 2 a la vez :f_biggrin:

      PokerStars - $0.05 Ante $0.01 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 164.6 BB (VPIP: 28.89, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 46)
      SB: 119.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
      BB: 272 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 37.50, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 8)
      UTG: 200 BB
      Hero (CO): 203 BB

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 5 players post ante of 0.2 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has A:club: A:spade:

      UTG raises to 4.4 BB, Hero raises to 13.2 BB, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to 199.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 186.6 BB

      Flop: (402 BB, 2 players) 3:heart: 9:heart: 8:club:

      Turn: (402 BB, 2 players) J:spade:

      River: (402 BB, 2 players) T:heart:

      UTG shows A:diamond: K:diamond: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 12%, Flop 0.3%, Turn 0%)
      Hero shows A:club: A:spade: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 88%, Flop 99.7%, Turn 100%)
      Hero wins 385.4 BB

      Hand 15:
      Las manos de mesas deep no se pueden explicar..

      PokerStars - $0.05 Ante $0.01 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      UTG+1: 211.4 BB (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
      Hero (MP): 310 BB
      MP+1: 374.8 BB (VPIP: 38.03, PFR: 8.45, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 72)
      CO: 197.8 BB
      BTN: 71 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
      SB: 196.4 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
      BB: 266.4 BB (VPIP: 20.15, PFR: 12.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 134)
      UTG: 159 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 18.52, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 54)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 8 players post ante of 0.2 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 3 BB) Hero has 8:heart: 8:diamond:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, MP+1 calls 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 8 BB, fold, Hero calls 5 BB, fold

      Flop: (21.6 BB, 2 players) 2:club: 6:spade: 7:diamond:
      SB bets 12 BB, Hero calls 12 BB

      Turn: (45.6 BB, 2 players) K:spade:
      SB bets 24 BB, Hero calls 24 BB

      River: (93.6 BB, 2 players) 8:club:
      SB bets 55 BB, Hero raises to 265.8 BB and is all-in, SB calls 97.2 BB and is all-in

      Hero shows 8:heart: 8:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Eights) (Pre 20%, Flop 13%, Turn 5%)
      SB shows A:club: A:spade: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 80%, Flop 87%, Turn 95%)
      Hero wins 381.4 BB


      Hand 16:
      Valor valor valor!!

      PokerStars - $0.05 Ante $0.01 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      UTG+1: 207.6 BB (VPIP: 20.69, PFR: 17.24, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
      MP: 183 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
      MP+1: 151 BB (VPIP: 45.16, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
      CO: 90.4 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
      BTN: 250 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 9.72, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 72)
      Hero (SB): 250.6 BB
      BB: 339.8 BB (VPIP: 17.46, PFR: 3.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 63)
      UTG: 164.2 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

      Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 8 players post ante of 0.2 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 3 BB) Hero has 9:heart: 9:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, BB calls 3 BB, MP+1 calls 3 BB

      Flop: (13.6 BB, 3 players) J:heart: 9:spade: 3:heart:
      Hero bets 7.2 BB, fold, MP+1 calls 7.2 BB

      Turn: (28 BB, 2 players) 7:spade:
      Hero bets 37.2 BB, MP+1 calls 37.2 BB

      River: (102.4 BB, 2 players) Q:spade:
      Hero bets 95.6 BB, MP+1 calls 95.6 BB

      Hero shows 9:heart: 9:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Nines) (Pre 54%, Flop 72%, Turn 82%)
      MP+1 mucks T:diamond: Q:heart: (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 46%, Flop 28%, Turn 18%)
      Hero wins 281.4 BB

      Hand 17:
      Me imagino hace unos 8 o 9 años a Patrik Antonius pelando a los fishes asi...

      PokerStars - $0.05 Ante $0.01 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 117.8 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 21.05, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 39)
      UTG: 130.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
      CO: 269.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
      BTN: 150 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
      Hero (SB): 101.8 BB

      Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 5 players post ante of 0.2 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has 2:heart: 2:spade:

      UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN raises to 5 BB, Hero calls 4.6 BB, fold, UTG calls 2 BB

      Flop: (17 BB, 3 players) 8:spade: 2:diamond: J:heart:
      Hero bets 12 BB, fold, BTN raises to 144.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 84.6 BB and is all-in

      Turn: (210.2 BB, 2 players) 3:club:

      River: (210.2 BB, 2 players) T:heart:

      Hero shows 2:heart: 2:spade: (Three of a Kind, Twos) (Pre 52%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
      BTN shows Q:club: A:heart: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 48%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
      Hero wins 201.4 BB


      Hand 18:
      Muy buena valuebet en turn.

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 150 BB (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
      Hero (SB): 100 BB
      BB: 106.4 BB (VPIP: 12.70, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 63)
      UTG: 255.2 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
      MP: 133.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
      CO: 83.4 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)

      Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 4:club: 4:heart:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 8 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

      Flop: (16 BB, 2 players) 7:club: 4:spade: A:spade:
      Hero bets 10 BB, BB calls 10 BB

      Turn: (36 BB, 2 players) 5:club:
      Hero bets 82 BB and is all-in, BB calls 82 BB

      River: (200 BB, 2 players) Q:heart:
      Players agreed to run it twice.

      River #2: (200 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond:

      Hero shows 4:club: 4:heart: (Three of a Kind, Fours)Board #1 (Pre 54%, Flop 93%, Turn 91%)Board #2 (Pre 54%, Flop 93%, Turn 91%)
      BB shows 8:spade: A:club: (One Pair, Aces)Board #1 (Pre 46%, Flop 7%, Turn 9%)Board #2 (Pre 46%, Flop 7%, Turn 9%)
      Hero wins 95.8 BB
      Hero wins 95.8 BB

      Espero mañana ya poder subir a nl10, estoy casi como comence, gane unos satellites y unos spin and go, asi que
      Bankroll: 190u$s +60u$s
    • poblenou
      poblenou
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      :gl: :nh:
    • chiaradiapoker
      chiaradiapoker
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      Nadie me comenta alguna mano :f_cry:
    • chiaradiapoker
      chiaradiapoker
      Bronce
      Registro: 02-03-2010 Artículos: 641
      alguien me ayuda a entender esta linea roja, como analizo bien esa linea para ver en que estoy perdiendo mas?

    • chiaradiapoker
      chiaradiapoker
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      Registro: 02-03-2010 Artículos: 641
      alguien me ayuda a entender esta linea roja, como analizo bien esa linea para ver en que estoy perdiendo mas?

    • chiaradiapoker
      chiaradiapoker
      Bronce
      Registro: 02-03-2010 Artículos: 641
      nadie pasa por aqui? quiero alguna idea sobre como buscar esos agujeros donde se filtra el dinero.
    • chiaradiapoker
      chiaradiapoker
      Bronce
      Registro: 02-03-2010 Artículos: 641
      Hoy tuve una buena sesion, ya subi a nl10 y tratare de llegar a 25 lo mas rapido posible





      La mano del dia... estaba multitableando a 16 mesas y crei que tenia set... pero cuando me di cuenta que era un 6 ya era tarde.

      LOL

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 7 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      SB: 79.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
      BB: 85.7 BB (VPIP: 17.31, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 54)
      UTG: 105.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 8)
      Hero (UTG+1): 102.8 BB
      MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 11.43, PFR: 5.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
      CO: 42 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 16)
      BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.11, PFR: 9.29, 3Bet Preflop: 4.31, Hands: 614)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 5:spade: 5:club:

      UTG raises to 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold

      Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) T:diamond: 4:diamond: 6:heart:
      UTG bets 5 BB, Hero raises to 16.5 BB, fold, UTG raises to 103 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 83.8 BB and is all-in

      Turn: (209.6 BB, 2 players) J:club:

      River: (209.6 BB, 2 players) 6:club:

      UTG shows K:diamond: Q:diamond: (One Pair, Sixes) (Pre 50%, Flop 57%, Turn 48%)
      Hero shows 5:spade: 5:club: (Two Pair, Sixes and Fives) (Pre 50%, Flop 43%, Turn 52%)
      Hero wins 200.2 BB
    • chiaradiapoker
      chiaradiapoker
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      Registro: 02-03-2010 Artículos: 641
      Hand 1

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      UTG+1: 120.4 BB (VPIP: 13.91, PFR: 10.60, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 152)
      Hero (MP): 141.8 BB
      MP+1: 113.8 BB (VPIP: 14.74, PFR: 11.54, 3Bet Preflop: 1.59, Hands: 158)
      CO: 107.7 BB (VPIP: 31.19, PFR: 27.52, 3Bet Preflop: 9.30, Hands: 109)
      BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 4.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
      SB: 44.1 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 24)
      BB: 104.5 BB (VPIP: 11.36, PFR: 9.85, 3Bet Preflop: 6.52, Hands: 135)
      UTG: 140.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T:spade: T:club:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

      Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) Q:heart: 3:club: 8:diamond:
      Hero bets 4.7 BB, CO calls 4.7 BB

      Turn: (16.9 BB, 2 players) Q:spade:
      Hero bets 8.9 BB, CO calls 8.9 BB

      River: (34.7 BB, 2 players) Q:diamond:
      Hero bets 16.6 BB, CO raises to 56.6 BB, Hero calls 40 BB

      CO shows Q:club: A:heart: (Four of a Kind, Queens)
      (Pre 43%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
      Hero mucks T:spade: T:club: (Full House, Queens full of Tens)
      (Pre 57%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
      CO wins 141.2 BB


      Hand 2

      PokerStars - $0.10 Ante $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.76, PFR: 14.40, 3Bet Preflop: 6.96, Hands: 635)
      MP+2: 254.2 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 8.39, 3Bet Preflop: 2.79, Hands: 449)
      CO: 265.9 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
      BTN: 208.4 BB (VPIP: 17.24, PFR: 11.49, 3Bet Preflop: 3.03, Hands: 89)
      SB: 132.3 BB (VPIP: 10.60, PFR: 10.60, 3Bet Preflop: 5.45, Hands: 302)
      BB: 216.6 BB (VPIP: 38.10, PFR: 23.81, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
      UTG: 347.8 BB (VPIP: 21.82, PFR: 12.47, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 2,931)
      Hero (UTG+1): 255.3 BB
      MP: 157.5 BB (VPIP: 38.57, PFR: 8.57, 3Bet Preflop: 2.70, Hands: 72)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 9 players post ante of 0.2 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 3.3 BB) Hero has T:club: T:spade:

      UTG raises to 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB, MP raises to 13 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 9 BB

      Flop: (33.3 BB, 2 players) 2:spade: T:heart: A:heart:
      Hero checks, MP checks

      Turn: (33.3 BB, 2 players) 3:club:
      Hero bets 23.8 BB, MP raises to 63.5 BB, Hero calls 39.7 BB

      River: (160.3 BB, 2 players) 7:spade:
      Hero checks, MP bets 80.8 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 80.8 BB

      MP shows A:club: A:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Aces)
      (Pre 81%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
      Hero mucks T:club: T:spade: (Three of a Kind, Tens)
      (Pre 19%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
      MP wins 307.4 BB


      Hand 3

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 194.2 BB (VPIP: 18.28, PFR: 6.45, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 93)
      SB: 100.2 BB (VPIP: 17.75, PFR: 8.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 174)
      BB: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 12.63, PFR: 7.82, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 506)
      Hero (UTG): 100 BB
      UTG+1: 81.5 BB (VPIP: 23.68, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
      MP: 177.5 BB (VPIP: 24.97, PFR: 12.77, 3Bet Preflop: 3.18, Hands: 874)
      MP+1: 146.4 BB (VPIP: 16.04, PFR: 11.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, Hands: 324)
      MP+2: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.92, PFR: 7.29, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 96)
      CO: 138 BB (VPIP: 14.43, PFR: 10.52, 3Bet Preflop: 2.49, Hands: 1,007)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:heart: A:diamond:

      Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, MP raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

      Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) K:spade: 2:club: A:spade:
      Hero checks, MP bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

      Turn: (47.5 BB, 2 players) 8:heart:
      Hero checks, MP bets 28 BB, Hero calls 28 BB

      River: (103.5 BB, 2 players) J:heart:
      Hero checks, MP bets 49.4 BB, Hero calls 49 BB and is all-in

      MP shows A:club: A:heart: (Three of a Kind, Aces)
      (Pre 93%, Flop 99.9%, Turn 100%)
      Hero shows K:heart: A:diamond: (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
      (Pre 7%, Flop 0.1%, Turn 0%)
      MP wins 192.4 BB


      Hand 4

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP+1: 104.5 BB (VPIP: 13.84, PFR: 10.23, 3Bet Preflop: 2.61, Hands: 868)
      CO: 107.9 BB (VPIP: 75.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
      BTN: 134.1 BB (VPIP: 11.16, PFR: 11.16, 3Bet Preflop: 5.75, Hands: 251)
      SB: 75.4 BB (VPIP: 7.23, PFR: 7.23, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 84)
      Hero (BB): 127.2 BB
      UTG: 112 BB (VPIP: 12.12, PFR: 9.92, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 366)
      UTG+1: 93.1 BB (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
      MP: 72.8 BB (VPIP: 22.73, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9:club: A:club:

      fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2 BB, UTG+1 calls 2 BB

      Flop: (12.5 BB, 4 players) 9:diamond: A:heart: 4:spade:
      Hero bets 8.9 BB, fold, MP calls 8.9 BB, CO calls 8.9 BB

      Turn: (39.2 BB, 3 players) 5:spade:
      Hero bets 28 BB, fold, CO calls 28 BB

      River: (95.2 BB, 2 players) 2:diamond:
      Hero bets 68.1 BB, CO calls 68 BB and is all-in

      Hero shows 9:club: A:club: (Two Pair, Aces and Nines)
      (Pre 69%, Flop 97%, Turn 91%)
      CO shows 3:club: A:diamond: (Straight, Five High)
      (Pre 31%, Flop 3%, Turn 9%)
      CO wins 220.8 BB
    • twoods25
      twoods25
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      Registro: 11-22-2013 Artículos: 176
      Hola Chiaradiapoker! Te voy a dar algunos consejos sobre la dicha linia roja:
      En primer lugar saber, que la linia roja representa el dinero total invertido, con las manos que no llegamos a ver el showdown.
      Lo normal en mesas SH o FR de niveles medio/bajos es tener en negativo esta linia, no te preocupes, aunque si hay formas de minimizar su progresiva bajada.
      Fijate en lo siguiente: Estás foldeando mucho postflop sin llegar al SD? Fijate en las perdidas que tienes en las ciegas, tanto en la SB como en la BB, estas dos posiciones son las que hacen mayor referencia a esta linia.
      Me recalco, en estos niveles jugamos por valor, y el valor lo sacaremos la mayoria de las veces en el SD frente a jugadores loose con un WTSD alto, es estándar tener la linia roja en negativo, aún así fijate en el juego en las ciegas, filtrandolo con el PT4. Saludos y te sigo!
    • guss18
      guss18
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      chiaradiapoker pasame tu id de :skype: , asi debatimos manos salu2:gl:
    • chiaradiapoker
      chiaradiapoker
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      gabriel.chiaradia es mi sqkype
    • sir4bet
      sir4bet
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      si es estandar que la linea roja tienda a ir hacia abajo, si juegas con 100 bb y ganas con la linea roja probablemente pierdas dinero a largo plazo. pero como bien dice twoods hay formas de aminorar su tendencia negativa. quizas haya botes que tengas que foldear antes sin llegar al river, jugar check-raise, sobretodo en botes sin posicion que son los mas dificiles de jugar siendo deep. y como dice twoods fijate en las ciegas, al jugar sin posicion quizas estes foldeando cuando llegas a river xk se te complican los spots. ya nos dices! espero haberte ayudado :)
    • chiaradiapoker
      chiaradiapoker
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      me pase a SH, y ahora estoy por probar nl10 a ver como va. ¡
    • sir4bet
      sir4bet
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      te sigo, yo juego SH tambien. cualquier cosa medices! un saludo
    • chiaradiapoker
      chiaradiapoker
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      Hoy la sesion matutina fue de 10



      Algunas manos que quiero ver si la linea que tome fue correcta

      Aca en principio en flop`creo que solo me gana 99-TT, pero sale el 9 primero y luego el T, por lo que la unica mano que creo que pierdo es AA slowplayeado, por eso juego check porque creo que me va a poner en AK y me va a betear siempre en ese river.


      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 48.94, PFR: 31.91, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 49)
      UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 12.24, PFR: 6.12, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 49)
      CO: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 17.78, PFR: 15.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 49)
      BTN: 103 BB (VPIP: 35.00, PFR: 31.67, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 64)
      Hero (SB): 300.6 BB

      Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:club: K:diamond:

      fold, CO raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 12.5 BB, fold, CO calls 9.5 BB, fold

      Flop: (29 BB, 2 players) 3:heart: 9:heart: T:diamond:
      Hero bets 13.8 BB, CO calls 13.8 BB

      Turn: (56.6 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond:
      Hero bets 27 BB, CO calls 27 BB

      River: (110.6 BB, 2 players) T:spade:
      Hero checks, CO bets 48.2 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 48.2 BB

      CO shows Q:diamond: Q:heart: (Two Pair, Queens and Tens) (Pre 18%, Flop 14%, Turn 5%)
      Hero shows K:club: K:diamond: (Two Pair, Kings and Tens) (Pre 82%, Flop 86%, Turn 95%)
      Hero wins 197.7 BB



      Aca el villano es un nit 8/8, en pocas manos, pero no veia rentable jugar 4bet/call ahi, y creo que va a foldear muchas manos si lo 4beteo, por eso prefiero pagar y mi idea era jugar calldown, pero luego cuando se da check turn, creo que NUNCA tiene AA, asi que salvo JJ no me gana ninguna mano, de hecho, creo que JJ la juega siempre bet, bet, bet. Que opinan?

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (UTG): 119.9 BB
      MP: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 24.59, PFR: 19.67, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, Hands: 125)
      CO: 88.7 BB (VPIP: 18.92, PFR: 5.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
      BTN: 231.9 BB (VPIP: 48.28, PFR: 24.14, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 59)
      SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
      BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:heart: K:club:

      Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 9.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.5 BB

      Flop: (20 BB, 2 players) J:club: 5:diamond: 9:heart:
      SB bets 12.2 BB, Hero calls 12.2 BB

      Turn: (44.4 BB, 2 players) 7:diamond:
      SB checks, Hero checks

      River: (44.4 BB, 2 players) 5:heart:
      SB checks, Hero bets 27.9 BB, SB raises to 78.3 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 50.4 BB

      SB shows 8:heart: A:heart: (One Pair, Fives) (Pre 32%, Flop 19%, Turn 25%)
      Hero shows K:heart: K:club: (Two Pair, Kings and Fives) (Pre 68%, Flop 81%, Turn 75%)
      Hero wins 192 BB
    • chiaradiapoker
      chiaradiapoker
      Bronce
      Registro: 02-03-2010 Artículos: 641
      Que opinan?

      NH? o en river debia jugar xc?, me parece que AA-KK me paga tambien, y a veces puede ponerme en algun 89, 78, etc.

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      UTG: 136 BB (VPIP: 19.51, PFR: 13.41, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 87)
      MP: 75.5 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
      CO: 106.5 BB (VPIP: 22.37, PFR: 11.84, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 77)
      BTN: 181.8 BB (VPIP: 15.15, PFR: 12.12, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 33)
      SB: 104.1 BB (VPIP: 23.08, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
      Hero (BB): 128.2 BB

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7:heart: 7:club:

      fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

      Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 7:spade: T:diamond: 5:heart:
      Hero checks, BTN bets 4 BB, Hero calls 4 BB

      Turn: (14.5 BB, 2 players) 4:club:
      Hero checks, BTN bets 10.3 BB, Hero raises to 30.9 BB, BTN calls 20.6 BB

      River: (76.3 BB, 2 players) Q:club:
      Hero bets 90.3 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 90.3 BB

      Hero shows 7:heart: 7:club: (Three of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 19%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
      BTN shows T:spade: T:club: (Three of a Kind, Tens) (Pre 81%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
      BTN wins 245.3 BB
    • chiaradiapoker
      chiaradiapoker
      Bronce
      Registro: 02-03-2010 Artículos: 641
      La unica mano con dudas de hoy... se que su push river muchas veces representa el color.. pero por como venia la mano solo lo ponia en 9hxh, aunque si no tuviera la J para la escalera estoy seguro que no pago.

      Pero pense que podia estar shoveando el 9 como de bronca por el color.

      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (BB): 220.3 BB
      UTG: 97 BB (VPIP: 14.55, PFR: 12.73, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 111)
      CO: 280.4 BB (VPIP: 87.65, PFR: 19.75, 3Bet Preflop: 10.87, Hands: 168)
      BTN: 103.4 BB (VPIP: 19.81, PFR: 16.04, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 108)
      SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9:diamond: J:diamond:

      UTG raises to 2.5 BB, CO calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

      Flop: (8 BB, 3 players) 5:heart: 7:heart: 8:club:
      Hero checks, UTG bets 4.9 BB, fold, Hero calls 4.9 BB

      Turn: (17.8 BB, 2 players) 6:club:
      Hero checks, UTG bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

      River: (37.8 BB, 2 players) T:heart:
      Hero checks, UTG bets 79.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 79.6 BB

      UTG shows A:heart: 9:heart: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 68%, Flop 80%, Turn 57%)
      Hero shows 9:diamond: J:diamond: (Straight, Jack High) (Pre 32%, Flop 20%, Turn 43%)
      UTG wins 188.1 BB
    • itaba
      itaba
      Bronce
      Registro: 09-03-2010 Artículos: 329
      yo creo que te estas auto leverageando, en la ultima mano un rival nit te apuesta 80bb solo puedes esperar rango de nuts no veo bluffs de ese tamaño en su rango, y en la primera mano QQ vs JJ que conviertes en bluff de mas de 100bb, te va a abandonar todas las manos excepto la escalera entonces no esta muy claro que tenga caso apostar a que vas a sacar valor? pero apostar un monto de mas de 100bb esta totalmente fuera de proporcion, mi opinion es que el dinero se te esta yendo en los rivers bro, saludos
    • chiaradiapoker
      chiaradiapoker
      Bronce
      Registro: 02-03-2010 Artículos: 641
      Eso era FR, me tilda mucho jugar FR, ahora estoy jugando distinto, la que me interesa son las ultimas 2, sobre todo la del push con 77, que no se si SIEMPRE tiene un set mayor ahi, o si me conviene jugar bet/call std para que me pague con manos tomo TP o OP