FR (Hasta NL25) NL10 bet de cara y fold.

    • ferfastito
      ferfastito
      Bronce
      Registro: 05-22-2008 Artículos: 201
      Bueno despues de jugar agresivo preflop, para llevar la iniciativa, en ambas manos me meten de cara y tengo q foldear, es la opcion correcta?

      1)
      PokerStars Game #22589912461: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/12/03 14:38:25 ET
      Table 'Pleione IV' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
      Seat 1: bigstock2001 ($10.10 in chips)
      Seat 2: notsogood ($4.95 in chips)
      Seat 3: fishguide05 ($7.20 in chips)
      Seat 4: knurzel9 ($6.15 in chips)
      Seat 5: psychop4th ($14.45 in chips)
      Seat 6: Aceintheside ($14.35 in chips)
      Seat 7: rmilne87 ($3.55 in chips)
      Seat 8: iestyn500 ($10.50 in chips)
      Seat 9: Fastito ($10.65 in chips)
      notsogood: posts small blind $0.05
      fishguide05: posts big blind $0.10
      *** HOLE CARDS ***
      Dealt to Fastito [Ah Ks]
      knurzel9: folds
      psychop4th: folds
      Aceintheside: folds
      rmilne87: folds
      iestyn500: folds
      Fastito: raises $0.30 to $0.40
      bigstock2001: folds
      notsogood: folds
      fishguide05: raises $0.30 to $0.70
      Fastito: raises $1.80 to $2.50
      fishguide05: calls $1.80
      *** FLOP *** [9d 2c Js]
      fishguide05: bets $2.10
      Fastito: folds
      Uncalled bet ($2.10) returned to fishguide05
      fishguide05 collected $4.80 from pot
      fishguide05: doesn't show hand
      *** SUMMARY ***
      Total pot $5.05 | Rake $0.25
      Board [9d 2c Js]
      Seat 1: bigstock2001 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 2: notsogood (small blind) folded before Flop
      Seat 3: fishguide05 (big blind) collected ($4.80)
      Seat 4: knurzel9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 5: psychop4th folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 6: Aceintheside folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 7: rmilne87 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 8: iestyn500 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 9: Fastito folded on the Flop





      2)
      PokerStars Game #22594250283: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/12/03 17:04:53 ET
      Table 'Kypria' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
      Seat 1: mirkovucinic ($2.80 in chips)
      Seat 2: olideca ($9.70 in chips)
      Seat 4: JackWraith ($10.20 in chips)
      Seat 5: xsinesex ($9 in chips)
      Seat 6: Fastito ($12.90 in chips)
      Seat 7: rogermoquin ($4.05 in chips)
      rogermoquin: posts small blind $0.05
      pokerpunkie: is sitting out
      Valden77: is sitting out
      mirkovucinic: posts big blind $0.10
      *** HOLE CARDS ***
      Dealt to Fastito [9d 9s]
      olideca: folds
      pokerpunkie leaves the table
      Valden77 leaves the table
      JackWraith: folds
      xsinesex: raises $0.30 to $0.40
      zugspitzjokl joins the table at seat #8
      Fastito: raises $0.80 to $1.20
      rogermoquin: folds
      Alrober8769 joins the table at seat #9
      mirkovucinic: raises $1.60 to $2.80 and is all-in
      xsinesex: calls $2.40
      Fastito: calls $1.60
      *** FLOP *** [4c 4h Ks]
      xsinesex: bets $6.20 and is all-in
      mirkovucinic said, "luckbox"
      mirkovucinic said, ":p"
      Fastito: folds
      Uncalled bet ($6.20) returned to xsinesex
      *** TURN *** [4c 4h Ks] [3s]
      *** RIVER *** [4c 4h Ks 3s] [3d]
      *** SHOW DOWN ***
      mirkovucinic: shows [4d 4s] (four of a kind, Fours)
      xsinesex: mucks hand
      mirkovucinic collected $8.05 from pot
      *** SUMMARY ***
      Total pot $8.45 | Rake $0.40
      Board [4c 4h Ks 3s 3d]
      Seat 1: mirkovucinic (big blind) showed [4d 4s] and won ($8.05) with four of a kind, Fours
      Seat 2: olideca folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 4: JackWraith folded before Flop (didn't bet)
      Seat 5: xsinesex mucked [7h 7d]
      Seat 6: Fastito (button) folded on the Flop
      Seat 7: rogermoquin (small blind) folded before Flop
  • 4 respuestas
    • kidacao
      kidacao
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      Registro: 07-27-2007 Artículos: 5.413
      La proxima trata de convertirlas en weaktight :P





      $0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
      9 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG knurzel9 ($6.15)
      UTG+1 psychop4th ($14.45)
      MP1 Aceintheside ($14.35)
      MP2 rmilne87 ($3.55)
      MP3 iestyn500 ($10.50)
      CO Hero ($10.65)
      BTN bigstock2001 ($10.10)
      SB notsogood ($4.95)
      BB fishguide05 ($7.20)

      Pre-flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is CO A:heart: K:spade:
      5 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, fishguide05 raises to $0.70, Hero raises to $2.50, fishguide05 calls $1.80

      Flop: 9:diamond: 2:club: J:spade: ($5.05, 2 players)
      fishguide05 bets $2.10, Hero folds

      Final Pot: $5.05

      fishguide05 wins $6.90 ( won +$2.30 )
      Hero lost -$2.50




      En esta mano esta bien, huele mal el miniraise y despues call al 4bet. Como minimo tiene algun par y ya solo con eso vas perdiendo.









      $0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
      6 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG olideca ($9.70)
      UTG+1 JackWraith ($10.20)
      CO xsinesex ($9.00)
      BTN Hero ($12.90)
      SB rogermoquin ($4.05)
      BB mirkovucinic ($2.80)

      Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is BTN 9:diamond: 9:spade:
      2 folds, xsinesex raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, 1 fold, mirkovucinic goes all-in $2.80, xsinesex calls $2.40, Hero calls $1.60

      Flop: 4:club: 4:heart: K:spade: ($8.45, 3 players)
      xsinesex goes all-in $6.20, mirkovucinic says "luckbox", mirkovucinic says ":p", Hero folds

      Turn: 3:spade: ($14.65, 2 players)

      River: 3:diamond: ($14.65, 2 players)

      Final Pot: $8.45
      mirkovucinic shows: 4:diamond: 4:spade:
      xsinesex shows: 7:heart: 7:diamond:

      mirkovucinic wins $8.05 ( won +$5.25 )
      xsinesex wins $6.20 ( lost -$2.80 )
      Hero lost -$2.80





      Fold preflop! No nos dan los numeros para hacer call por set value, ademas no creo q el pozo sea demasiado grande para que valga la pena pagar...
    • DaMiaNLaw
      DaMiaNLaw
      Bronce
      Registro: 07-20-2008 Artículos: 704
      original de kidacao
      La proxima trata de convertirlas en weaktight :P
      +1

      Ultimamente como que todos olvidaron como se deben de postear las manos y las copian directamente del historial de o de su programa estadistico y complica un poco la lectura.

      Mano 1:

      La jugaria exactamente igual que tu.

      Mano 2:

      En el momento que la BB Hace push, y el CO hace call, tienes solo 2 Opciones, aislarte contra el Short Stack o Foldear, no puedes solamente pagar.

      Salu2
    • extremerage
      extremerage
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      Registro: 07-03-2007 Artículos: 4.461
      Hola ferfastito

      Gracias kidacao por convertir las manos, realmente se hace mucho más fácil la lectura.


      Mano 1: Bien jugada, en ese flop estás perdiendo contra todas las manos que harían call a tu raise, menos AK.

      Mano 2: Cuando el SS va allin tenés que decidir si hacer raise nuevamente o fold. Pagar por set valeu no podés, por lo que la única forma de que el call sea correcto es que estés contra un maníaco con el que estés dispuesto a aceptar allin en cualquier flop.


      Saludos
      Matías
    • ferfastito
      ferfastito
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      Registro: 05-22-2008 Artículos: 201
      Ok gracias.

      Lo del conversor es que se me queda calao cada vez que subo una mano, me lo mirare para la proxima.