Historia del poker online: de principio hasta que se acabe

    • pabloav57
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      Bueno pues como pronto entra en vigor la regulacion(a tomar viento poker :roto2: ) pues me apetecio contar las historia desde como se hizo el poker online(resumida) hasta que se destrozo poco a poco por no saber usar un bien tan preciado. Eso si historia hecho por mi ya que no conozco todala historia del poker. :s_confused:

      Empezemos. :fdrink :sdrink

      Historia del poker. Como se creo.

      No se como se les ocurrio el poker online, seria como los demas inventos, unos universitarios aburridos decidieron hacer una nueva herramienta. Un dia jugando al poker veian que siempre tenian que sacar la baraja, contar las fichas, etc, asi que se les ocurrio una idea, porque no hacer un programa de poker que reparta las fichas, cartas, etc.

      Asi lo hicieron, al programa lo llamaron pokermanager v 0.5 :coolface: , obv tenia mas fallos que un fishaco jugando, pero poco a poco fue evolucionando y ya iba acogiendo nuevos jugadores. Luego un fishaco les dijo porque no hacian unos servidores y ponian ese programa online y asi fue como se hizo planet poker en 1998, luego le seguira paradise poker en 1999. Mas tarde aparecera full tilt poker y pokerstars, entre otras nombradas mas adelante.

      Todo subia como la espuma, empezaba a registrarse cada vez mas gente, asi que como todo negocio empezo la competencia, full tilt poker creo rush poker(no me dio tiempo a probarlo) para atraer mas jugadores. Por otro lado tambien aparecio los bonos de poker(consistia en ingresar dinero y luego ir desbloqueandolo poco a poco con los puntos generados) y tambien aparecieron nuevas salas como party poker, 888poker, poker heaven, etc. Pero lo mejor que pudo pasar fueron las comunidades de poker, como por ejemplo, pokerstrategy(no pongo mas sino me banean por referir a otras comunidades).

      Mas tarde aparecio los sofwares de estadistica, como Holdem manager, Poker tracker, Free poker database, elephant(caducado, jeje) porque cada vez habia mas jugadores y asi era mucho mas facil saber como jugaban, nuestra grafica, manos, sesiones, el famoso HUD, etc.

      Despues las salas estaban viendo que el NL y el FL estaba ya muy visto asi que empezaron a crear nuevas modalidades como omaha, razz, sud, HU(dos jugadores), los sits turbo y hyper y ahora jokerstars tiene el zoom(camara digital con 15mega pixeles aunque ellos dicen que es un nuevo juego de poker que va mas rapido). =)

      Paso el tiempo y claro veian que este negocio hacia dinero rapido asi que el FBI empezo a investigar si todo se hacia correctamente y zassssssssssss aparece el black friday, full tilt poker cierra sus puertas con el dinero generado de millones de personas. :fuuu:

      Asi que pokerstars paso a ser el lider de las salas de poker ya que su software era rapido, entendible y comodo. Pero como los ricos no estaban contentos decidieron cerrar Estados Unidos, es decir, que solo podrian jugar entre ellos no con españoles, argentinos, rusos, etc. Luego cayo en las garras francia, italia, etc.

      Ahora es el turno de españa, solo que a nosotros nos estan haciendo mas lio, porque 1º venia en diciembre, luego abril y al final para junio. WTF! disposicion salinas que parece que no usais bloc de notas. :fuuu:

      Al final llega en esta semana y bueno pues como hacen muchos emigrar a otro pais sin regulacion o dejar el poker y empezar con nuevos juegos como parchis, baraja española, etc. :roto2:

      Pues ahora solo falta saber como es la .es y a seguir escribiendo la historia del poker. :sdrink


      Saludos y esto solo es una historia del poker resumida, si alguien quiere aportar algo mas, es libre. :coolface:


      P.D: Todolo bueno se acaba o se corrompe. :fuckyeah
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    • pabloav57
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      Otro apunte, Black friday = Friday regulation, parecen que escojen los dias. :roto2:
    • PolenDelMoro
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      Yo empece un lunes
    • pabloav57
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      original de PolenDelMoro
      Yo empece un lunes
      :coolface: :coolface: :coolface:

      Yo empece el sabado para llegar despierto el lunes. :fdrink :sdrink
    • KAsFold
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      si no estoy mal la primer sala online fue Paradise poker creada en 1999 en la cual se jugaba en un principio solo FL por dinero real
    • PolenDelMoro
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      si no estoy mal la primer sala online fue Paradise poker creada en 1999 en la cual se jugaba en un principio solo FL por dinero real
      Lol. por ese entonces yo estaba en catequesis.

      Si hubiera invertido todo el bank de la comunion, quizas hubiera sido el niño prodigio del poker mundial, sin embargo, me compraron un ordenador.

      Pablo anotalo en el primer post.
    • pabloav57
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      si no estoy mal la primer sala online fue Paradise poker creada en 1999 en la cual se jugaba en un principio solo FL por dinero real
      jaja, parace ser que la primera fue planet poker en 1998, luego vino paradise poker. :coolface:

      1 sala de poker

      Lo edito que tengo que poner las comunidades de poker y el software de estadisticas. :roto2:


      Thanks compañeros, haber si hacemos un buen resumen del poker online para informar. :megusta
    • KAsFold
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      parece que si
      The Internet’s First Poker Site PlanetPoker.com

      Planet Poker has an important place in online poker history; created by Randy Blumer, Planet Poker launched in July 1997. As legend has it, on 01 January 1998 the first hand in the history of real money online poker was dealt; the place planetpoker.com and the game $3/$6 Fixed Limit Holdem. Despite first mover advantage… server problems, security concerns, and competition arriving, left Planet Poker in a position where they never became a serious force. Even Mike Caro as their spokesperson, Roy Cooke as their poker room manager, and VIP Sports as a network partner couldn’t save them. On 31 March 2007, they decided they had enough and folded their real money poker operation.

      Was Planet Poker the First Online Poker Site?

      The answer to this question in my personal opinion is yes. However in the early 1990’s Todd Mummert and Greg Reynolds created a server and script for IRC users that provided free online poker tournaments, which was openly available starting in late 1995. This is where many (eventual) WSOP bracelet winners, including Chris Ferguson and Perry Friedman, became masters of tournament poker. IRC Poker was merely a chat room for geeks though; most would not call IRC’s poker client a “poker site”. This why, perhaps rightfully so, the July 1997 launch of planetpoker.com is generally reported as the birth of online poker sites.

      First Real Money Online Poker Hand

      According to reports placed on the net near a decade after the occurrence, on January 1, 1998 the first ever real money online poker hand was played, the game Fixed Limit Texas Holdem. Although an important part of poker history, nothing else is known about that hand. A deep search of Google couldn’t even find a rumour or speculation as to who it was that participate or who won the first ever real money online poker hand. So how do we know then that it was a $3-$6 Fixed Limit Hold’em Game? Easy, this was one the game offered for the first few months. A $10-$20 short handed game came next, and around mid 1998, a wide variety of stakes were available.

      Planet Poker Early Years

      After that first ever real money poker hand was dealt on 1 January 1998, it took about two months before online poker games started to run 24 hours a day at their site. Unfortunately for them, much of the story of being first ends with missed opportunity. As Planet Poker grew it ran into many technical problems that would leave it shut down for days, later were questions about their security, and of course… soon enough, competition arrived.

      Competition Arrives

      In 1999 Delta Poker and Paradise Poker entered the real money online poker business. At the same time Planet Poker was having serious server issues. The software would crash repeatedly and often would go down for days. Contributing to the problem was the fact that most internet connections were still dial up connections. This helped Delta Poker, and especially Paradise Poker, gain market share. By 2001 Paradise Poker dominated the industry leaving Planet Poker with just a few hundred real money players compared to over 1000 real money players at Paradise Poker.

      Random Number Generator Cracked

      New competition was not the only problem Planet Poker had. ASF Software produced the random number generator (RNG) for Planet Poker. This RNG was used to virtually shuffle the deck. In order to gain trust from players ASF Software decided to publish the algorithm for their RNG. A group of software engineers from Reliable Software Technologies discovered that they could predict the turn and river cards based on what two cards they were dealt plus the cards dealt on the flop. They discovered that as opposed to the actual 4 billion possible card combinations there were only 200,000 possible combinations for Planet Poker’s RNG. When they plugged in the flop plus their hole cards they knew what the turn and river would be. Often they could even predict other player’s holdings. Luckily this group did not exploit the flaw they discovered, they turned their information over to ASF Software so that they could resolve the issue. This story is retold by Cigital in an article titled How We learned to Cheat at Online Poker.

      Planet Poker Signs Big Names

      Planet Poker recognized the need to add some credibility to their poker room. Mike Caro was signed as a spokesman. Roy Cooke was hired as poker room manager. While with Planet Poker Cooke designed what is now the industry standard for discovering collusion at online poker tables. He also designed the current rake schedule used by most poker rooms to this day, 5% up to $3.

      Planet Poker’s Irrelevance

      Between serious software, server and RNG issues, Planet Poker lost confidence within their player pool. Even an attempt to create a poker network where VIP Sports (later VIP.com) became their partner and operated a Planet Poker skin didn’t help. Perhaps most confusing, Planet Poker didn’t even bother to add tournament poker to their website until 2004, it was all ring games for the first six years. While over the years they kept a “very small” loyal player base, for the most part, Planet Poker was never able to market themselves as an option to serious poker players, even with Caro and Cooke as the faces of their poker room. In time, Planet Poker, the first ever online poker site, became irrelevant.

      Planet Poker Ceases Operations

      On 25 March 2007 Planet Poker announced that they would cease real money play on 31 March 2007. Neteller leaving the U.S. market had crippled Planet Poker’s ability to process payments. Since most of the players at Planet Poker were U.S. players they saw no need to attempt a non U.S. online poker offering. Unlike other poker room closures around the same time, ALL players and ALL affiliates were paid in full; kudos and gratitude to Planet Poker for that. Today Planet Poker still offers their software for play money games.

      fuente
      http://www.onlinepokersites.co.uk/the-muck/planet-poker


      planet poker loby
    • pabloav57
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      si no estoy mal la primer sala online fue Paradise poker creada en 1999 en la cual se jugaba en un principio solo FL por dinero real
      Lol. por ese entonces yo estaba en catequesis.

      Si hubiera invertido todo el bank de la comunion, quizas hubiera sido el niño prodigio del poker mundial, sin embargo, me compraron un ordenador.

      Pablo anotalo en el primer post.
      Anotado con mas info. :sdrink :fdrink

      jajajajaja, empezaste por algo, compraste el pc, luego solo era descargar paradise poker y a jugar freerrolls. :coolface:
    • pabloav57
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      parece que si
      The Internet’s First Poker Site PlanetPoker.com

      Planet Poker has an important place in online poker history; created by Randy Blumer, Planet Poker launched in July 1997. As legend has it, on 01 January 1998 the first hand in the history of real money online poker was dealt; the place planetpoker.com and the game $3/$6 Fixed Limit Holdem. Despite first mover advantage… server problems, security concerns, and competition arriving, left Planet Poker in a position where they never became a serious force. Even Mike Caro as their spokesperson, Roy Cooke as their poker room manager, and VIP Sports as a network partner couldn’t save them. On 31 March 2007, they decided they had enough and folded their real money poker operation.

      Was Planet Poker the First Online Poker Site?

      The answer to this question in my personal opinion is yes. However in the early 1990’s Todd Mummert and Greg Reynolds created a server and script for IRC users that provided free online poker tournaments, which was openly available starting in late 1995. This is where many (eventual) WSOP bracelet winners, including Chris Ferguson and Perry Friedman, became masters of tournament poker. IRC Poker was merely a chat room for geeks though; most would not call IRC’s poker client a “poker site”. This why, perhaps rightfully so, the July 1997 launch of planetpoker.com is generally reported as the birth of online poker sites.

      First Real Money Online Poker Hand

      According to reports placed on the net near a decade after the occurrence, on January 1, 1998 the first ever real money online poker hand was played, the game Fixed Limit Texas Holdem. Although an important part of poker history, nothing else is known about that hand. A deep search of Google couldn’t even find a rumour or speculation as to who it was that participate or who won the first ever real money online poker hand. So how do we know then that it was a $3-$6 Fixed Limit Hold’em Game? Easy, this was one the game offered for the first few months. A $10-$20 short handed game came next, and around mid 1998, a wide variety of stakes were available.

      Planet Poker Early Years

      After that first ever real money poker hand was dealt on 1 January 1998, it took about two months before online poker games started to run 24 hours a day at their site. Unfortunately for them, much of the story of being first ends with missed opportunity. As Planet Poker grew it ran into many technical problems that would leave it shut down for days, later were questions about their security, and of course… soon enough, competition arrived.

      Competition Arrives

      In 1999 Delta Poker and Paradise Poker entered the real money online poker business. At the same time Planet Poker was having serious server issues. The software would crash repeatedly and often would go down for days. Contributing to the problem was the fact that most internet connections were still dial up connections. This helped Delta Poker, and especially Paradise Poker, gain market share. By 2001 Paradise Poker dominated the industry leaving Planet Poker with just a few hundred real money players compared to over 1000 real money players at Paradise Poker.

      Random Number Generator Cracked

      New competition was not the only problem Planet Poker had. ASF Software produced the random number generator (RNG) for Planet Poker. This RNG was used to virtually shuffle the deck. In order to gain trust from players ASF Software decided to publish the algorithm for their RNG. A group of software engineers from Reliable Software Technologies discovered that they could predict the turn and river cards based on what two cards they were dealt plus the cards dealt on the flop. They discovered that as opposed to the actual 4 billion possible card combinations there were only 200,000 possible combinations for Planet Poker’s RNG. When they plugged in the flop plus their hole cards they knew what the turn and river would be. Often they could even predict other player’s holdings. Luckily this group did not exploit the flaw they discovered, they turned their information over to ASF Software so that they could resolve the issue. This story is retold by Cigital in an article titled How We learned to Cheat at Online Poker.

      Planet Poker Signs Big Names

      Planet Poker recognized the need to add some credibility to their poker room. Mike Caro was signed as a spokesman. Roy Cooke was hired as poker room manager. While with Planet Poker Cooke designed what is now the industry standard for discovering collusion at online poker tables. He also designed the current rake schedule used by most poker rooms to this day, 5% up to $3.

      Planet Poker’s Irrelevance

      Between serious software, server and RNG issues, Planet Poker lost confidence within their player pool. Even an attempt to create a poker network where VIP Sports (later VIP.com) became their partner and operated a Planet Poker skin didn’t help. Perhaps most confusing, Planet Poker didn’t even bother to add tournament poker to their website until 2004, it was all ring games for the first six years. While over the years they kept a “very small” loyal player base, for the most part, Planet Poker was never able to market themselves as an option to serious poker players, even with Caro and Cooke as the faces of their poker room. In time, Planet Poker, the first ever online poker site, became irrelevant.

      Planet Poker Ceases Operations

      On 25 March 2007 Planet Poker announced that they would cease real money play on 31 March 2007. Neteller leaving the U.S. market had crippled Planet Poker’s ability to process payments. Since most of the players at Planet Poker were U.S. players they saw no need to attempt a non U.S. online poker offering. Unlike other poker room closures around the same time, ALL players and ALL affiliates were paid in full; kudos and gratitude to Planet Poker for that. Today Planet Poker still offers their software for play money games.

      fuente
      http://www.onlinepokersites.co.uk/the-muck/planet-poker


      planet poker loby
      buena info KAsFold. asi era el lobby, donde tiene las opciones, se nota que era de suscribirse, jja. :sdrink
    • PolenDelMoro
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      El problema que a esas edades, en vez de al poker, jugaba a pokemon, pero si, ya tenia el primer paso.

      :roto2: :roto2:

      Por cierto, las modalidades estaban creadas, salvo el zoom, que lo fundo full tilt, con el ya archiconocido rush poker :]
    • pabloav57
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      LOBBYS DE LAS SALAS Y SUS RESPECTIVAS MESAS.



      Pokerstars

      Lobby

      Mesa



      Partypoker

      Lobby

      Mesa


      888poker. No me gusta nada sus abre paginas. :ayfkm

      Lobby

      Mesa


      PokerHeaven

      Lobby


      Mesa


      Titan Poker

      Lobby

      Mesa


      Poker 700

      Lobby

      Mesa


      William Hill

      Lobby

      Mesa


      Everest Poker

      Lobby

      Mesa
    • pabloav57
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      El problema que a esas edades, en vez de al poker, jugaba a pokemon, pero si, ya tenia el primer paso.

      :roto2: :roto2:

      Por cierto, las modalidades estaban creadas, salvo el zoom, que lo fundo full tilt, con el ya archiconocido rush poker :]
      Es verdad pero ya la inclui ahi para no dejarla de lado. :coolface:


      Yo en esa epoca creo que estaba jugando a las canicas, futbol, lucha libre, jajajaja, que tiempos. :roto2: :sdrink
    • UNIKORNIO200
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      Joder no me digáis que el poker online fue inventado en 1998, en serio, me asombra que antes se le ocurriera a alguien inventarse un electrodoméstico que calentara la comida (y reventara las longanizas) funcionando a través de ondas de cierta frecuencia y longitud de onda que provoca calor dieléctrico generado a partir del movimiento de las partículas que tratan de alinear sus dipolos eléctricos con el campo eléctrico generado.

      El ser humano es extraordinario xD

      En serio es un dato que desconocía, siempre se alegra uno de aprender algo nuevo y me ha resultado curioso. Que fish soy.
    • pabloav57
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      Joder no me digáis que el poker online fue inventado en 1998, en serio, me asombra que antes se le ocurriera a alguien inventarse un electrodoméstico que calentara la comida (y reventara las longanizas) funcionando a través de ondas de cierta frecuencia y longitud de onda que provoca calor dieléctrico generado a partir del movimiento de las partículas que tratan de alinear sus dipolos eléctricos con el campo eléctrico generado.

      El ser humano es extraordinario xD

      En serio es un dato que desconocía, siempre se alegra uno de aprender algo nuevo y me ha resultado curioso. Que fish soy.
      Si es raro, yo pense que el poker online se inventara antes, como por ejemplo, en 1980, ya que en 1969 se invento internet o mejor dicho(arpanet) :roto2:

      Pero tu piensa que el poker online hay que controlar mas cosas, no solo controlar la frecuencia de las ondas, como por ejemplo, el algoritmo que usan es muy complicado de hacer(y de descifrar), luego hay que gestionar servidores, calcular el numero de rigged de una mano, etc. :sdrink

      Saludos. :fuckyeah
    • AlberRexus
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      Cuenta la leyenda que el poker online empezó allá por 1.902 cuando 4 amigos, desde sus respectivas casas, se llamaban por teléfono cartas en mano diciéndose las fichas que tenía cada uno y lo que apostaba en cada calle.
    • Positrom
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      Estaria bien estimar , el numero total de manos de poker online y numero de jugadores.


      Por ejemplo : En caso de que pokerstars haya repartido la mitad de manos del total seria:


      164,000,000,000 de manos
    • pabloav57
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      Estaria bien estimar , el numero total de manos de poker online y numero de jugadores.


      Por ejemplo : En caso de que pokerstars haya repartido la mitad de manos del total seria:


      164,000,000,000 de manos
      :fuuu: :fuuu: :fuuu:, muchas manos, hay que hacer una regla de 3 invertida/volumen de jugadores en linea/salas de poker/ x rivers. :fdrink :sdrink
    • PolenDelMoro
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      Cuenta la leyenda que el poker online empezó allá por 1.902 cuando 4 amigos, desde sus respectivas casas, se llamaban por teléfono cartas en mano diciéndose las fichas que tenía cada uno y lo que apostaba en cada calle.
      Si donde dices telefono, hablas de un hilo y 4 yogures te doy por buena la teoria.