FR (Hasta NL25) A3 gutshot + FD vs ultramaniaco y regfish IP

    • evildarkblade
      evildarkblade
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      Bueno, primero, no encontre el foro de NL10 asi que posteo en el de NL 16 que es el mas cercano que encontre... no me creen??


      Bueno ya enserio, bueno en la descripción solo falto DEEP... en la mano limpeo porque quiero jugar IP vs el loco (que por cierto ya llevaba 40dlls perdidos en 40 manos, si va deep es porque los reg lo agarraron con mano).

      Stats: 88/28 AF: 2.0 3bet: 9.1 hands: 69

      Mi pregunta es, hasta que punto consideran bien pagar el turn??


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      Stacks:
      UTG ($10)
      UTG+1 ($16.98)
      MP1 ($10.43)
      MP2 ($11.02)
      MP3 ($9.77)
      CO ($42.19)
      Hero (BTN) ($19.97)
      SB ($39.46)
      BB ($3.85)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is BTN 3 A
      3 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, 1 fold, CO calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

      Flop: 6 Q 2 ($0.50, 5 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks

      Turn: 4 ($0.50, 5 players)
      SB bets $0.28, 2 folds, CO raises to $0.56, Hero???
  • 6 respuestas
    • Qetz
      Qetz
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      Registro: 09-22-2009 Artículos: 3.311
      Me parece la mejor opcion, tienes implicitas imo, sobre todo si sale el 5, tienes FD+GS+Ahigh, no puedes foldear. No se si lo que preguntas es si puedes raisear, yo con el fish aun en la mano y el raise de CO no lo veo para nada.
    • evildarkblade
      evildarkblade
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      original de Qetz
      Me parece la mejor opcion, tienes implicitas imo, sobre todo si sale el 5, tienes FD+GS+Ahigh, no puedes foldear. No se si lo que preguntas es si puedes raisear, yo con el fish aun en la mano y el raise de CO no lo veo para nada.
      oh cierto, me falto especificar, la ballenar es el CO xD
    • droopyno
      droopyno
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      Registro: 07-21-2010 Artículos: 7.746
      Hola.

      Fold preflop o ROL preflop... pero nunca limp.

      Tal cual la juego foldeo turn y poco mas. Un 5 no siempre nos da la mejor mano. Y casi nunca nos vale nuestro Ax en caso de salir.

      ademas es un freeplay... no estoy contandome implicitas o viendo que posibilidad hay de ligar algo o no. Si pagamos turn y SB nos slowplayeo un set y nos mete la caja tenemos que foldear =S

      Un saludo.
    • Qetz
      Qetz
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      No es por pincharte dropy xD , pero decir que el A no nos dara la mejor mano casi nunca y al mismo tiempo que no tenemos implicitas es un poco contradictorio. :coolface:
      Las apuestas postflop siempre cuentan con mas implicitas que las preflop. Preflop pueden venirte fuerte con AQ pero no hitear nada, postflop si te resuben es que algo llevan imo. Por eso el echo de que sea un freeplay no me importa demasiado.

      A mi el 5 es el out que mas me gustaria que saliera, no hay ninguna mano que nos gane si sale, 37, 78 jugando asi turn¿? si sale el trebol tanto puede tener implicitas inversas si es otro 6 o Q, como, y mas importante, les puede cortar la accion a los villanos, pero un 5 es una maravilla, no levanta sospechas xD . Yo creo que en el turn tenemos demasiados outs y con el fish en medio unas implicitas enormes, infoldeable, por el mismo motivo, el fish, inraiseable xD .
    • evildarkblade
      evildarkblade
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      Bueno es la hora de defender mi overlimp :coolface:
      les dejare unas cuantas manos del maniac, un fish como nunca antes visto: termino perdiendo 80 dlls en 69 manos :facepalm:

      Y un poco de musica para que disfruten mientras ven las manos :coolface: :coolface: :





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      UTG+1 ($8.88)
      MP1 ($6.82)
      MP2 ($28.60)
      Hero (MP3) ($20.32)
      CO ($14.53)
      BTN ($3.23)
      SB ($10)
      BB ($10)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is MP3 5 2
      UTG raises to $0.40, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.40, Hero folds, CO calls $0.40, 3 folds

      Flop: Q J 3 ($1.35, 3 players)
      UTG bets $0.85, MP2 raises to $3.60, CO raises to $9.50, UTG folds, MP2 calls $5.90

      Turn: 8 ($21.20, 2 players)
      MP2 checks, CO goes all-in $4.63, MP2 calls $4.63

      River: K ($30.46, 2 players, 1 all-in)

      Final Pot: $30.46
      MP2 shows a pair of Queens
      Q 5
      CO shows three of a kind, Threes
      3 3

      CO wins $29.09 (net +$14.56)

      UTG lost $1.25
      MP2 lost $14.53



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      Stacks:
      UTG ($11.82)
      UTG+1 ($10)
      MP ($9.55)
      CO ($10.17)
      Hero (BTN) ($10)
      SB ($14.62)
      BB ($18.62)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 7 players) Hero is BTN K 4
      3 folds, CO raises to $0.60, Hero folds, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

      Flop: 2 6 5 ($1.25, 2 players)
      BB bets $0.95, CO raises to $1.90, BB goes all-in $18.02, CO goes all-in $7.67

      Turn: 3 ($20.39, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      River: Q ($20.39, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      Final Pot: $20.39
      CO shows high card Ace
      K A
      BB shows two pair, Fives and Deuces
      5 2

      BB wins $27.92 (net +$9.30)

      CO lost $10.17


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      UTG ($9.81)
      Hero (UTG+1) ($39.15)
      MP ($37.95)
      CO ($20.10)
      BTN ($16.18)
      SB ($17.39)
      BB ($9.26)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 7 players) Hero is UTG+1 7 T
      UTG raises to $0.20, Hero folds, MP calls $0.20, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.20, SB calls $0.15, BB calls $0.10

      Flop: J A Q ($1, 5 players)
      SB bets $0.63, 1 fold, UTG raises to $1.80, 2 folds, SB goes all-in $17.19, UTG goes all-in $7.81

      Turn: J ($20.22, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      River: 3 ($20.22, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      Final Pot: $20.22
      SB shows a full house, Jacks full of Queens
      Q J
      UTG shows two pair, Aces and Jacks
      A T

      SB wins $26.89 (net +$9.50)

      BTN lost $0.20
      BB lost $0.20
      UTG lost $9.81
      MP lost $0.20



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      Stacks:
      UTG ($12.34)
      UTG+1 ($10)
      MP1 ($9.90)
      MP2 ($8.64)
      Hero (CO) ($10)
      BTN ($15.12)
      SB ($11.67)
      BB ($10)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 8 players) Hero is CO 4 9
      2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 raises to $0.90, Hero folds, 1 fold, SB calls $0.85, 1 fold, MP1 folds

      Flop: 9 6 3 ($2, 2 players)
      SB checks, MP2 bets $2, SB calls $2

      Turn: 6 ($6, 2 players)
      SB checks, MP2 bets $2, SB calls $2

      River: A ($10, 2 players)
      SB goes all-in $6.77, MP2 goes all-in $3.74

      Final Pot: $17.48
      MP2 shows two pair, Sixes and Threes
      5 3
      SB shows a full house, Nines full of Sixes
      9 9

      SB wins $19.72 (net +$8.05)

      MP1 lost $0.10
      MP2 lost $8.64



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      Stacks:
      UTG ($27.04)
      UTG+1 ($11.15)
      MP1 ($9.01)
      MP2 ($8.61)
      Hero (MP3) ($39)
      CO ($38.70)
      BTN ($10.46)
      SB ($20)
      BB ($15.98)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is MP3 8 T
      1 fold, UTG+1 checks, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 raises to $0.20, Hero folds, CO calls $0.20, BTN raises to $1.10, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.90, CO folds

      Flop: K 9 A ($2.65, 2 players)
      MP2 checks, BTN bets $1.76, MP2 raises to $3.52, BTN goes all-in $9.36, MP2 goes all-in $3.99

      Turn: 4 ($17.67, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      River: J ($17.67, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      Final Pot: $17.67
      MP2 shows a pair of Jacks
      J T
      BTN shows a pair of Aces
      Q A

      BTN wins $18.87 (net +$8.41)

      MP1 lost $0.10
      MP2 lost $8.61
      CO lost $0.20



      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
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      Stacks:
      Hero (UTG) ($11.60)
      UTG+1 ($14.42)
      MP1 ($3.07)
      MP2 ($11.37)
      MP3 ($10)
      CO ($11.84)
      BTN ($10.28)
      SB ($7.78)
      BB ($8.43)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is UTG T 3
      Hero folds, 3 folds, MP3 raises to $0.40, CO raises to $1.20, 2 folds, BB raises to $2, MP3 folds, CO goes all-in $11.84, BB goes all-in $6.43

      Flop: 2 4 Q ($17.31, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      Turn: J ($17.31, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      River: 5 ($17.31, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      Final Pot: $17.31
      CO shows three of a kind, Queens
      Q Q
      BB shows a pair of Deuces
      2 A

      CO wins $19.94 (net +$8.10)

      MP3 lost $0.40
      BB lost $8.43



      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
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      Stacks:
      UTG ($10)
      UTG+1 ($9.85)
      MP1 ($18.54)
      MP2 ($8.33)
      MP3 ($20.02)
      CO ($6.09)
      Hero (BTN) ($20.27)
      SB ($38.59)
      BB ($3.23)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.20, 9 players) Hero is BTN K 9
      [CO posts $0.05]
      UTG raises to $0.40, UTG+1 raises to $1.20, 3 folds, CO calls $1.20, Hero folds, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.80

      Flop: 4 Q 9 ($3.75, 3 players)
      UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $2.70, CO goes all-in $4.84, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $2.14

      Turn: A ($13.43, 2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: Q ($13.43, 2 players, 1 all-in)

      Final Pot: $13.43
      UTG+1 shows a full house, Queens full of Aces
      A Q
      CO shows
      3 K

      UTG+1 wins $12.87 (net +$6.83)

      CO collects $0.05 (net -$6.04)
      UTG lost $1.20



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      Stacks:
      Hero (UTG) ($20.47)
      UTG+1 ($14.22)
      MP1 ($2.87)
      MP2 ($10)
      MP3 ($9.85)
      CO ($19.94)
      BTN ($19.73)
      SB ($7.92)
      BB ($10)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is UTG J T
      Hero folds, 2 folds, MP2 says "as i said.. the happy donky hour... calling crap and hitting", 1 fold, MP3 raises to $0.40, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30

      Flop: 5 7 8 ($1.25, 3 players)
      BB bets $2.50, MP3 folds, BTN goes all-in $19.33, BB goes all-in $7.10

      Turn: 3 ($20.45, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      River: 2 ($20.45, 2 players, 2 all-in)

      Final Pot: $20.45
      BTN shows high card Jack
      J 9
      BB shows two pair, Fives and Deuces
      5 2

      BB wins $19.53 (net +$9.53)

      BTN collects $9.73 (net -$10.00)
      MP3 lost $0.40



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      Stacks:
      UTG ($14.02)
      Hero (UTG+1) ($20.32)
      MP1 ($29.09)
      MP2 ($3.23)
      MP3 ($10)
      CO ($9.85)
      BTN ($18.54)
      SB ($9.13)
      BB ($6.82)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is UTG+1 9 5
      UTG raises to $0.80, Hero folds, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.80, 2 folds, SB calls $0.75, BB goes all-in $6.82, UTG calls $6.02, MP3 calls $6.02, SB folds

      Flop: 8 6 A ($21.26, 3 players, 1 all-in)
      UTG checks, MP3 checks

      Turn: A ($21.26, 3 players, 1 all-in)
      UTG goes all-in $7.20, MP3 goes all-in $3.18

      River: K ($27.62, 3 players, 3 all-in)

      Final Pot: $27.62
      BB shows three of a kind, Aces
      A J
      UTG shows two pair, Aces and Kings
      K 6
      MP3 shows two pair, Aces and Queens
      Q Q

      BB wins $20.30 (net +$13.48)

      UTG collects $10.10 (net -$3.92)
      SB lost $0.80
      MP3 lost $10


      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
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      Stacks:
      UTG ($7.83)
      Hero (UTG+1) ($11.60)
      MP1 ($14.42)
      MP2 ($3.07)
      MP3 ($11.37)
      CO ($9.85)
      BTN ($11.84)
      SB ($10.33)
      BB ($7.88)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is UTG+1 4 K
      UTG calls $0.10, Hero folds, 3 folds, CO raises to $0.50, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.40

      Flop: 2 4 T ($1.15, 2 players)
      UTG bets $1.60, CO folds

      Final Pot: $1.15

      UTG wins $2.70 (net +$0.60)

      CO lost $0.50



      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
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      Stacks:
      Hero (UTG) ($20.12)
      UTG+1 ($39.32)
      MP1 ($3.85)
      MP2 ($10)
      MP3 ($16.98)
      CO ($10.43)
      BTN ($11.12)
      SB ($9.90)
      BB ($41.80)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is UTG 6 J
      Hero folds, 5 folds, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

      Flop: 5 Q 2 ($0.30, 3 players)
      SB checks, BB bets $2.10, BTN folds, SB folds

      Final Pot: $0.30

      BB wins $2.39 (net +$0.19)

      BTN lost $0.10
      SB lost $0.10


      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
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      9 Players
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      Stacks:
      UTG ($18.54)
      UTG+1 ($8.33)
      MP1 ($20.02)
      MP2 ($10)
      Hero (MP3) ($20.27)
      CO ($39.82)
      BTN ($1.83)
      SB ($10)
      BB ($16.68)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is MP3 K 4
      3 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, Hero folds, 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

      Flop: 4 J 9 ($0.30, 3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, MP2 bets $0.90, SB folds, BB folds

      Final Pot: $0.30

      MP2 wins $1.19 (net +$0.19)

      BB lost $0.10
      SB lost $0.10


      Bueno a todo esto creo que tengo implicitas con mi Limp preflop, el tio jamas se tirara ante un raise y aunque tengo posicion me interesa meter fichas CONTRA este tio en particular, si quieren ver mis stats, jamas hago limp preflop (:

    • evildarkblade
      evildarkblade
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      Bueno, como no recibi respuesta, dejare como anecdota el resto de la mano :coolface:

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      Stacks:
      UTG ($10)
      UTG+1 ($16.98)
      MP1 ($10.43)
      MP2 ($11.02)
      MP3 ($9.77)
      CO ($42.19)
      Hero (BTN) ($19.97)
      SB ($39.46)
      BB ($3.85)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is BTN 3 A
      3 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, 1 fold, CO calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

      Flop: 6 Q 2 ($0.50, 5 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks

      Turn: 4 ($0.50, 5 players)
      SB bets $0.28, 2 folds, CO raises to $0.56, Hero calls $0.56, SB calls $0.28

      River: 5 :megusta ($2.18, 3 players)
      SB checks, CO bets $7.40 :roto2: , Hero goes all-in $19.31, SB folds, CO calls $11.91 :megusta

      Final Pot: $40.80
      CO shows a pair of Fours :f_confused:
      K 4
      Hero shows a straight flush, Ace to Five
      3 A

      Hero wins $39.30 (net +$19.33)

      CO collects $0.00 (net -$19.97 :coolface: )
      MP2 lost $0.10
      SB lost $0.66
      BB lost $0.10