FR (Hasta NL25) 87 steal, flop top two pair

    • kmiloknte
      kmiloknte
      Bronce
      Registro: 04-16-2009 Artículos: 880
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Reproducir mano

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      UTG2:
      $4.75
      MP1:
      $7.90
      MP2:
      $10.00
      MP3:
      $10.15
      CO (Hero):
      $12.42
      BU:
      $25.23
      SB:
      $11.71
      BB:
      $10.00


      Preflop: Hero is CO with 8, 7.
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BU calls $0.30, SB folds, BB calls $0.20.

      Flop: ($0.95) 8, 3, 7 (3 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BU raises to $2.10, BB folds, Hero calls $1.40.

      Turn: ($5.15) 6 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $5.15, Hero?

      Debería terminar all in aqui??
  • 5 respuestas
    • merchan79
      merchan79
      Bronce
      Registro: 01-19-2010 Artículos: 44
      Yo diría que sí. No tenemos datos del villano pero pot bet con ese flop huele a bluff para tirarte de la mano. Llevas dobles máximas. Yo le pongo en A8 o FD fallido.

      ¿Podrías poner el resultado de la mano? Gracias.
    • Sczcepanik
      Sczcepanik
      Bronce
      Registro: 01-17-2009 Artículos: 4.738
      Hola (sorry my spanish is terrible! But your hand its nice and I would like to opine :f_biggrin: )

      What would you like to hit, when you raise with 78 o ? A flop like 888?

      Even against 56s (combo draw), you are ahead (54% - 45%).

      You cant be afraid of 77-88 cause you are holding some blockers, so, 33 is the only considerable set in this flop.

      By the way, any agressive player would raise you with:

      56s, 9Ts, A9s, ATs, AJs, AQs, and other hands that he just limped like 99-TT-JJ. Assuming you dont have any reads, and he wouldnt slowplay QQ,KK,AA, AKs, lets see:

      7 :spade: , 8 :diamond: against 5 :diamond: , 6 :diamond: =

      http://www.PokerStrategy.com
      Operação completada... Calculados 990 jogos em 0 Segundos.

      Board: 8d3d7c
      Dead:

      Equity Ganho empate Perda Mão
      Jogador 1: 54,747% 54,747% 0,000% 45,253% 8s7d
      Jogador 2: 45,253% 45,253% 0,000% 54,747% 6d5d

      Including the wide range: (33,99-JJ, A9s-AQs, 56s, 9Ts.

      http://www.PokerStrategy.com
      Operação completada... Calculados 26.730 jogos em 0 Segundos.

      Board: 8d3d7c
      Dead:

      Equity Ganho empate Perda Mão
      Jogador 1: 62,738% 62,738% 0,000% 37,262% 8s7d
      Jogador 2: 37,262% 37,262% 0,000% 62,738% JJ-99, 33, AdQd, AdJd, AdTd, Ad9d, Td9d, 6d5d

      You are ahead 62% against this tight range, if we include all other flush draw combinations (like J9s), your equity will keep increasing.

      Since you dont have any other reads (if the player would make stupid moves like going broke with 89o, pre flop calling 37o, etc)

      So, just to conclude, I think that raising in the flop is the best idea.
      There are a lot of scary cards you dont like to see (any :diamond: , a 9, 6, another 3... )

      So, after all... Raise flop! :f_grin:

      (Thats my own opinion, and I really liked the way this hand developed, and sorry once again for writing everything in english!)

      By the way, call turn and be happy!
    • aerojohnnyx
      aerojohnnyx
      Bronce
      Registro: 01-21-2010 Artículos: 1.269
      original de Sczcepanik
      Hola (sorry my spanish is terrible! But your hand its nice and I would like to opine :f_biggrin: )

      What would you like to hit, when you raise with 78 o ? A flop like 888?

      Even against 56s (combo draw), you are ahead (54% - 45%).

      You cant be afraid of 77-88 cause you are holding some blockers, so, 33 is the only considerable set in this flop.

      By the way, any agressive player would raise you with:

      56s, 9Ts, A9s, ATs, AJs, AQs, and other hands that he just limped like 99-TT-JJ. Assuming you dont have any reads, and he wouldnt slowplay QQ,KK,AA, AKs, lets see:

      7 :spade: , 8 :diamond: against 5 :diamond: , 6 :diamond: =

      http://www.PokerStrategy.com
      Operação completada... Calculados 990 jogos em 0 Segundos.

      Board: 8d3d7c
      Dead:

      Equity Ganho empate Perda Mão
      Jogador 1: 54,747% 54,747% 0,000% 45,253% 8s7d
      Jogador 2: 45,253% 45,253% 0,000% 54,747% 6d5d

      Including the wide range: (33,99-JJ, A9s-AQs, 56s, 9Ts.

      http://www.PokerStrategy.com
      Operação completada... Calculados 26.730 jogos em 0 Segundos.

      Board: 8d3d7c
      Dead:

      Equity Ganho empate Perda Mão
      Jogador 1: 62,738% 62,738% 0,000% 37,262% 8s7d
      Jogador 2: 37,262% 37,262% 0,000% 62,738% JJ-99, 33, AdQd, AdJd, AdTd, Ad9d, Td9d, 6d5d

      You are ahead 62% against this tight range, if we include all other flush draw combinations (like J9s), your equity will keep increasing.

      Since you dont have any other reads (if the player would make stupid moves like going broke with 89o, pre flop calling 37o, etc)

      So, just to conclude, I think that raising in the flop is the best idea.
      There are a lot of scary cards you dont like to see (any :diamond: , a 9, 6, another 3... )

      So, after all... Raise flop! :f_grin:

      (Thats my own opinion, and I really liked the way this hand developed, and sorry once again for writing everything in english!)

      By the way, call turn and be happy!
      wow!!! Muy bueno , si señor.
    • kmiloknte
      kmiloknte
      Bronce
      Registro: 04-16-2009 Artículos: 880
      oww thank you very much, plz keep posting in the spanish forum!!
    • santaka
      santaka
      Bronce
      Registro: 09-01-2008 Artículos: 6.451
      Hola kmiloknte

      Menuda mega-evaluación ha hecho Sczcepanik :D

      Yo en NL10 no subiría 87o en últimas posiciones, porque realmente tiene muy mala jugabilidad postflop.

      El rango máximo sin stats para robar en NL10 que suelo recomendar es:

      - AX
      - Broadways
      - 22+
      - SC sin gap (54s-TJs)
      - SC con un gap (86s-QTs)


      Un saludo ;)

      Santaka